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Suggsverse vs Logic

by spitfire-panda

Chapter 2

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Pinkie Pie sat in the Voyager family's library, tapping away on a typewriter she'd found. She'd played hide and seek with Fry for several hours. Once his coffee induced super speed had faded, he'd decided to return to the fan fiction world to watch Mxyzptik blow Deadpool up. Senseless violence had no place in Pinkie Pie's heart, so she had decided to remain in the Voyager's world to see if she could spread some cheer and common sense. So far, Zephyranth had been the only Voyager she'd seen.

"What's going on, Pinkie Pie?" said a soft voice from the library entrance. Pinkie Pie turned to see a red and yellow mane moving past the empty places on the bookshelves.

"I'm over here, Sunset!" Pinkie Pie called happily.

"There you are!" Sunset Shimmer said as she walked around the corner shelf. Her saddlebag was full of books, and her mane was a bit dusty. "I gathered a bunch of books and had Discord send me over. This is the first time we've met each other, actually… Hi!"

Sunset Shimmer offered her hoof to Pinkie Pie nervously. Pinkie Pie pushed her hoof down and gave her new friend a big hug, instead.

"I know this isn't canon," Pinkie Pie said as she completed her hug and let go. "But it's good to finally meet you, Sunset."

"It's good to meet you, too," Sunset Shimmer said, happily. "So, how can I help?"

"Did you meet any of the Voyagers out there?"

"I met one. Her name was Xeranthemum."

"That name sounds like a sad flower," Pinkie Pie said as she turned back to her typewriter.

"She's more confused than she is sad. My human friends are consoling her."

"Why?"

"She started talking about something called 'Cataphysics', which doesn't make sense. She wouldn't accept my logic, though. It seemed to go in one ear and out the other. Then she tried to erase me and the other Canterlot High gang from existence by waving her hands. When that didn't work, she had an emotional breakdown."

"Aww, poor crazy flower lady."

"I am not a crazy flower lady!"

The ponies turned to see Xeranthemum standing before them, a bouquet of flowers crushed in one hand.

"Where are the others?" Sunset Shimmer asked.

"I left them with my sisters. They had meltdowns of their own… I recovered first because I'm the strongest!"

"What makes you the strongest?"

"I have the best control over Cataphysics. Your existence, and the existence of all that is, are most firmly in my grasp. None of my sisters can manipulate the Suggsverse as I can."

"We're not from the Suggsverse, though," Pinkie Pie said.

"Everything exists within the Suggsverse. You are no exception."

"Let's just say that's true," Sunset Shimmer said, carefully.

"Why?" Pinkie Pie asked.

"To keep her from freaking out again," Sunset whispered.

"Oh, ok," Pinkie Pie said with a sly wink and a nod. "So we're 'part' of Suggsverse and you're above it all. What does that mean to you, Xera?"

"I am Xeranthemum. Not 'Xera'. You lower tier creatures will address me as such."

The ponies shared a long-suffering look at this remark, but continued to humor the Voyager.

"So, what does it mean to be a Voyager, exactly?" Sunset Shimmer asked.

"It means that my existence is dependant on nothing but myself. I stand above the Ace of Spades, who himself stands above all of reality, fiction, non-fiction, cata-fiction, peta-fiction…"

"Does he stand on a really big chair?" Pinkie Pie asked.

"No! He resides in the Art Gallery! I think…"

"You don't know?" Sunset Shimmer asked as she led Xeranthemum to a seat. Pinkie Pie poured the Voyager a cup of tea and set it down before her guest.

"Of course I know! I am beyond the need for the concept of knowing, while still encompassing it in its entirety. And being outside of it, but still a part of it. Somehow."

"You can't even make me dissapear, and you still make those claims?" Sunset said as she accepted a cup of tea from Pinkie Pie.

"Lets start from someplace more simple," Pinkie Pie said as she poured her own tea and sat down next to Sunset Shimmer. "What do you do for a living?"

"I study Cataphysics," Xeranthemum said as she sipped her tea between shaking hands. "I think…"

"And what is 'Cataphysics'?" Sunset Shimmer said, more kindly than before. A feeling of pity began to well up in her heart as she tried to understand the other person.

"Cataphysics challenges to answer two elementary questions in the most all-encompassing possible and impossible terms: What is there beyond the apex? What is it like to be beyond the ever transcending supreme? The basis of the lower tier of physics is indeed Cataphysics."

"So… physics in our world is fundamentally grounded in this 'Cataphysics'?"

"Yes."

"In what way?"

"Just as the physics of individual universes are preoccupied with that which is strongest, so too is Cataphysics. In fact, Cataphysics is the reason why lower levels of physics are preoccupied with that which is above the apex."

The ponies shared another long-suffering look before Sunset Shimmer spoke again.

"Actually," she said, as carefully as she could. "The 'lower levels of physics', as you call them, aren't really interested in 'that which is above the apex'. Physics exists to explain the natural world. It has nothing to do with who could beat who in a fight."

"Of course they are!"

"So, explain how the force of gravity is trying to find the most powerful person?"

"Under certain conditions, gravity can extend to levels of infinity. The strongest being exists above levels of infinity. Gravity attempts to reach that level and fails."

"You can't be serious," Sunset Shimmer said as she put a hoof to her face in frustration. "In the physical universe, gravity only reaches infinity at the center of a black hole. That's due to the impossibly dense singularity."

"Why do you think black holes exist?"

"Because at the ends of their lives, stars of certain sizes accumulate iron in their cores that gravity then…"

"The process you are trying to explain is the physical process for the creation of a black hole. It is not the reason why black holes exist."

"Why do black holes exist?" Pinkie Pie asked with a big, sincere smile.

"They exist because matter, at its most basic level, seeks to transcend into something greater."

"Can you prove that?" Sunset Shimmer asked.

"No," Xeranthemum said.

"Then why make the claim?"

"Because it is true."

"How do you know?"

"Because I study Cataphysics."

"So it's a question of faith?"

"No. It is a fact proven by science."

"What about the natural forces that don't approach inifinity in the natural universe?" Pinkie Pie said.

"Good question, Pinkie," Sunset Shimmer said as she poured herself more tea. "Gravity is actually a weak force in relation to other forces, such as the magnetic force. Only in black holes is this trend different. None of the stronger forces have any instance where they seem to 'seek transcendance', as you claim. In our terms, this means that none of them ever approach infinity. But if they are underwritten by the laws of Cataphysics, these stronger forces should approach infinity more easily and more often than gravity. Why is it that only gravity approaches infinity?"

"Because gravity is the only physical force that trains day and night to become stronger," Xeranthemum said, confidently.

"Rainbow Dash gets stronger in a dojo," Pinkie Pie said. "Does gravity train in a dojo, too?"

"No, Pinkie Pie," Sunset Shimmer said as she rubbed her temples. "Gravity doesn't train in a dojo."

"I know that," Pinkie Pie said as she leaned close to her friend and whispered. "I'm just being silly 'cuz it's fun."

"You'll give her ideas!"

"She doesn't need to give me ideas," Xeranthemum said. "I already know that Gravity doesn't train in a dojo. He trains under a waterfall. I'll call him in here so you can see for yourself. Oh, Gravity!"

A puff of smoke filled the area around their table and a haggard old man appeared before them. He was wet, and smelled of rotten fish and animal droppings. He had no teeth. His arms, bare chest, and distended stomach were covered in hair.

"Show them your Infinite Mass Punch, Gravity."

"C-can we really call it that?" the old man said, nervously. "W-won't DC sue us?"

"We are beyond the necessity for the concept of lawyers. Now hit something as hard as you can! Show these ponies the efforts of your training!"

The old man took a martial arts stance, spreading his legs in an awkward position and nearly falling over in the process. He wound up his fist and punched a bookshelf as hard as he could. Nothing happened. The bookshelf didn't so much as shake. Having accomplished his task, Gravity fell backwards and passed out.

"Well?" Xeranthemum said proudly. "Do you now see the truth?"

"I saw an old man in poor health hit a bookshelf," Pinkie Pie said in concern. "Nothing happened. Is he gonna be alright?"

"This world exists far above the level of infinity Gravity can reach. It exists far above the concept of gravity and infinity, much less the necessity for either. Anyway, he isn't even a proper character in the Suggsverse."

Sunset Shimmer raised an eyebrow as she toppled the bookshelf.

"Excelent! You're a Voyager too!" Xeranthemum exclaimed as she clapped her hands in excitement. Pinkie Pie and Sunset Shimmer facehoofed in unison as Gravity snored peacefully next to them.

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