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WAIT THIS ISN'T OVER YET (CANCELED)

by Mpony1

Chapter 3: Rainbow haves a question; Why logic, facts, and evidence always win; Two new challengers joins the fight

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Rainbow haves a question; Why logic, facts, and evidence always win; Two new challengers joins the fight

Raven was just about to cast her memory spell on herself, to show everyone the reason why Celestia never help Twilight and her friends when a new threat to Equestria had risen.

The rumors spread among the citizens of Canterlot and no doubt ponies in different towns and cities thought the same way. That Princess Celestia pushes all her responsibilities of protecting Equestria on her faithful student and her friends and rarely raise a hoof to help.

Now Raven have a chance to prove all of them wrong as they will now bare witness to the truth to why Celestia never help.

A giant screen appeared above Raven's head for all to see and at the moment she was about to start the memory a voice yelled out to her to....

"WAIT!"

Everyone turned their attention to the source of the scream.

Raven groan in annoyance. "What is it Rainbow Dash? Can't you see I'm busy here!"

Rainbow step up to stand next to Fluttershy.

"Rainbow, What's wrong!?" Fluttershy asked.

"Nothing bad really! I just have a question I've been meaning to ask little miss prosecutor here." I mean Seriously since when hay did this whole thing turned into trial!? Rainbow thought.

Raven only stared annoyingly at the cyan pegasus. She wasn't really interested in what Rainbow had to say. "Can't this wait!? Like I said I'm very busy trying to prove Discord's guilt."

"Maybe I could wait but I'm afraid I might end up forgetting and I might not get a chance to even if I did." Rainbow shrug. "Its just one question and I want to get it out while I have this chance."

Raven sigh. "Fine, and what is it you want to ask me Miss Dash!?"

Rainbow Dash glared at the unicorn. Who only sat there unphased by her menacing stare. "I want to know how the hay you know so much about me and my friends?"

Raven raised an eyebrow. "Really! That's your big question?"

"Yeah it is!" Rainbow said. A little annoyed that Raven wasn't taking this seriously. "Ever since the start of this debate. You've revealed knowledge about us that you couldn't possibly know and yet you speak as if you were there with us, which is clearly not the case."

Rarity speaks. "Now that I think about it. When you used my backstory to prove why exactly that Twilight wasn't ready to rule. I now get the feeling you must of known about my past beforehoof and called me out because of that. But I never really shared that story with the media and only those close to me knew about it. So how did you hear about it?" She asked.

"Yeah, So what gives, are you a spy or some kind of creepy stalker?" Rainbow asked. Eyeing Raven suspiciousily.

Raven adjust her glasses. "Neither, Miss Dash. I've only been told of your tales from a second party."

"And who might that be?" Asked Rainbow.

"Well in Miss Rarity case, I heard all about her from Needle Strings herself." Raven answerd.

"You know Needle Strings?" Rarity asked.

"Not personally, no! I've met her at The Castle a few years ago. She was asked by Princess Celestia to make her and Princess Luna a dress for an upcoming Grand galloping Gala event back then. As it turns out she use to make dresses for Celestia all the time back in her day until she retired and was asked to make two more dresses for old times sake."

Rarity nodded in acknowledgement. "That's true! She told me all the stories how see was hoof pick by Celestia herself to make her dresses for special occasions. Including the last time she was asked, which she happily Acccept."

Raven resume her story. "I met her while she was taking a small break from her work, I wasn't doing anything at the time so we talk. She told me a lot about herself and her relationship with Princess Celestia but more than that she couldn't stop talking about you, Miss Rarity." Raven pointed a hoof at the mare in question. "She would go on and on from how you two met, how she taught you everything she knows, and how she knew you would be the next big thing to shine in fashion world. She even cried when she remembered how proud she was when Celestia herself hoofpick you to make Princess Cadance wedding dress and that was because of your own doing, she had nothing to do with it and it was in that moment she knew you will no doubt shine brighter than she ever did."

Rarity couldn't help but cry tears of joy as the memories came flooding back. She remembered that day after the Royal Wedding. When Needle String came to Ponyvile to congratulate her and tell her how proud she was that her hard work were recognize and shought after by the Princess herself. A great honor that can only come to one fashion designer at a time. A once in a lifetime chance, and for someone like Rarity who was just starting out. She had already been recognized by famous singers, other famous fashion designers, and now Royalty.

And Needle String assured Rarity that it was all because of her own accomplishments and hard work. She didn't do anything to help Rarity to get recognize because Rarity can easily do that on her own. Why else did Needle decided to take Rarity under her wing. It all goes back to when she first saw the beautiful dresses that an 8 year old filly, made for a simple school play.

Pinkie pie hoofed over a box a tissues that she pulled from her mane, over to Rarity. The Fashionista took a few and wipe her tears away. Once she was done Pinkie pull out a trash bin from nowhere and Raity toss the used tissues inside, Thanking Pinkie for her help. Pinkie nodded and put away the bin to parts unknown, and put the tissue box back in her mane.

Raven continued to answer Rainbow's question.

"And for how I know about you and your friends! You have Twilight to thanks for that."

Rainbow look at her confused. "And what's that supposed to mean? How is Twilight involved?"

"I knew Twilight ever since she first became Celestia 'personal student' and since I am Celesita's secretary and assistant. Our paths would cross many times. I would also assist her in her studies as well. Long story short, you could say I was more like a big sister to her, not much different from how she sees Celestia as a second mother but not exactly on the same level as the sibling hood she shared with Princess Cadance, when she was her foalsitter. Our relationship was mainly study base and reading books together."

"Ok! So you know Twilight." Said Rainbow. "So what, does she sends you letters telling you about all our adventures."

Raven shakes her head. "Oh no, of course not!"

"Then how-"

"She sends them to Celestia who in turn tells me." Raven interrupted. "Twilight would always send Celestia letters letting her know about the many different things you and your friends go through or simply talk about them when ever they meet just to chat and because I'm also close to Twilight, Celestia would share her tales with me and that's how I know so much about you all."

Rainbow couldn't help but stare at Raven all dumbfounded and her mouth agape. For a few moments she sat there with a dumb look on her face before turning around to face Twilight who tried to avoid her friend gaze.

"Is it true Twilight?" Asked Rainbow. "Did you tell Celestia everything about us?"

Twilight rub her right foreleg, nervously. "Not. Everything. Just the more bigger and important stuff!" She said meekly.

Raven speaks. "I don't know if Celestia shared every tale you told her with me but the way I see it, it seemed their was more than enough shared stories and details to make a second volume if not more for that 'friendship book' of yours."

Twilight blush in embarrassment. "I'm sorry girls!" Twilight apologize. "I just enjoy chatting with Celestia and with all the things we get into as well as Ponyville itself. Theirs was always something talk about."

Rainbow let out a deep sigh. "Its ok Twi! I'm not mad or anything and its not like you shared anything personal."

"Of course not! I wouldn't do that to you guys!" Said Twilight.

"Than we're cool!" Rainbow took a quick glance over at Raven before turning her attention to Fluttershy. "Careful Shy! We now know that she has a huge vast of information on us and after what we seen so far, she knows how to use it to her advantage."

Everyone look over at Raven; who simply adjusted her glasses and put on a smug smirk.

Rainbow shook her head. Annoyed at how smug the unicorn was being and it was more annoying, knowing she haves the means to back it up.

"I'm rooting for you, Shy! Even if Miss smart flank does proves Discord's guilt." Rainbow place a comforting hoof on Fluttershy shoulder. "I'll remain by your side through thick and thin."

The rest of their friends also spoke out, giving Fluttershy their support along with others who are on her side, like the young six who also gave their support; well all except for one of them. So many creatures shouted their encouragements to the yellow pegasus as they all cheered for her success.

Fluttershy smiled and hug her fillyhood friend, Rainbow hug back. "Thanks Rainbow!" They broke the hug. "Thank you everyone, and I promise, I will make sure Discord is forgiven for all he did no matter what." She said with determination.

All of Fluttershy's supporters applaud for her. Raven just rolled her eyes at all this.

"That's what I want to hear!" Rainbow said. Proud of that her shy friend was staying strong. "Kick her flank, Shy and then we can celebrate two victories at Joe's Doughnuts."

Fluttershy nodded then turned her attention back to her opponent. Her heart once again full of determination to save her B.D.F.F.E.T.T. (Best Draconequus Friend For Eternity Times Two)

"Kick my flank, you say!" Raven said smugly. "Get Discord forgiven, stand by her side no matter what......HA, how ludacris."

Smolder step forward to speak. "What's your deal?" She asked. Angry at Raven ongoing attitude.

"My deal, is that all of you who support this mare are just as blind as she is." Raven answered. "Like her, you're trying to ignore everything that monster done. Trying hard to avoid the truth and pure logic staring you in the face." Raven adjusted her glasses. "and that's exactly why I'm here. To show you all the truth and I can only guess how many of you will continue to support Fluttershy once everything is revealed." Raven turned her attention to Rainbow and smiled smugly. "I also wonder if the bearer of the element of loyalty could actually keep her word and remain by Miss Shy side."

"OF COURSE I WILL, I WOULD NEVER TURN MY BACK ON MY FRIENDS!!!!!" Rainbow yelled in anger.

"Oh really! Cause if I recall you did turn your back on Twilight at the Royal Wedding and you nor the rest of your friends even bother to listen to her about how weird Princess Cadance was acting." Raven said smugly. "Despite not that long ago, you all supposedly learned a lesson about listening to your friends after that 'Lesson Zero Event."

Rainbow groaned angerly. Once again Raven use her vast knowledge to turn things against them.

"And let's not forget that Twilight's accusations towards "fake Cadance" were instantly shot down when Shining Armor logically explained the reason behind each and every one of them and all of you still turned your back on her and left." Raven shrugs. "Sure it was all false because he was under chrysalis control but you guys didn't know that and it doesn't change the fact that his logical explanation still held a lot of weight. While Twilight didn't have any thing to support her claim beyond "She's evil" and expected you all to just take her for her word without any proof or logical explanation what so ever."

That got RD attention. Her rage completely disappeared as she remembered that day and it made her feel ashamed at herself. The same goes for the rest of her friends and Celestia, who all didn't believe Twilight's claim and they all knew the reason why and it is that same reason that Raven is using against them.

"Zap" Rainbow was brought out of her self pity when a familiar beam struck her forehead and a giant screen appeared over her.

Rainbow eyes shrunk in horror for she knew exactly what memory Raven brought forth from her mind and had a pretty good idea what she wanted to show to everyone.

Raven spoke. "And I believe its best that everyone of you "Fluttershy supporters" get to see why logic will always win and why FLuTtErShY," she said her name Mockingly. "Haves no hope in saving Discord. Let's watch."

Raven started the memory and everyone watch.

When the memory ended and the screen disappeared. Rainbow along with th rest of her friends that didn't listen to Twilight were upset with themselves for how they treated her and it made them feel even worse seeing the exact reason why they didn't listen and Raven's using it to her advantage to prove another one of her points once again.

Raven smiles triumphantly. Once again she got Fluttershy and her friends to see sense. "Its funny isn't it."Raven said. "How history can repeat itself one way or another. You guys mainly abandoned Twilight because she had no real evidence to prove that Cadance was evil, but Prince Shining Armor used logical facts to explain the reason why his bride was acting so out of character and in the end it was his logic that won you all over and leave Twilight."

That hit the mane 5 and Celestia hard because they all knew that what Raven said is the truth. They didn't listen to Twilight because she just showed up and started accusing Cadance without any sort of proof or evidence that she was evil, and when Shining Armor started explaining things it only made sense to follow the one who had a logical explanation for Cadance behavior than the one who didn't.

Raven continues. "And know that there's a giant difference between me and him. He was being controlled by Chrysalis and was trying to throw you guys off by using logic, sure it was false logic but logic none the less. But the logic I've presented so far are pure and I've shown evidence to help back it up, which lead to me proving two wrongs without any doubt." Raven adjust her glasses. "So in conclusion I say this to all of you who support Fluttershy....do you still believe you will remain by her side once all the truths are revealed, cause remember, right now she's in the same position, Twilight was at the royal wedding and like her, she doesn't have anything to help support her claim beyond "I believe." Isn't that right Miss Shy." She said. staring at the pegasus while putting on a devious smirk.

Fluttershy stared at Raven. Uncertainty and doubt was starting to show on her face, yet she fought to stay strong and not let Raven get to her. "Your right, we did turn our backs on Twilight, when we should of listened to her."

Rainbow Dash spoke. "and we learned our lesson, for real this time and we won't make the same mistake with Fluttershy." She said. Also staying strong.

The rest of ther friends nodded in agreement all six of them had looks of confidence on their faces, which only started to slowly fade when Raven started laughing at them.

"HAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!"

"What's so funny!?" Rainbow asked in anger. She was really getting sick of this mare but was deeply more afraid of her. Cause no matter what they say or do Raven always have a way to turn things around to her favor and RD can only imagine what the unicorn is going to say next.

Raven calmed herself enough to stop laughing before speaking. "Hehe, It's funny that you all are trying to cling so hard on false hope." Raven chuckled. "The thing is, the only one who was in the wrong in that scenario was "Twilight" not any of you."

"How the HAY were we not at fault!?" Rainbow argued.

"As I mentioned earlier, Twilight barged into the wedding rehearsal with circumstantial evidence and slanderous accusations, and had the gall to just expect everyone to take her word for it without any solid ground to stand on.”

Celestia steps up to speak. “It shouldn’t have mattered if no one else had seen what she saw. I still should have investigated! All of Canterlot–”

“Her accusations didn’t have anything to do with the threat against Canterlot!” Raven shouted. Causing the Sun Princess to flinch back. “No one had even guessed that changelings were involved at that point. All she knew was that she thought her brother was going to be marrying a rotten pony. Now that I think about it, that’s one of the most normal things I’ve ever seen her that worked up about.” Raven rolled her eyes, then sighed. “And even then, she shouldn’t have confronted you all the way she did. The way she acted, there was no way anypony could have trusted her. She should have discussed it with somepony beforehand. Like you Princess, I know you would of listened to her if she came to you calmy and explained things. Instead of acting like a complete and utter fool.”

Silence. Neither Rainbow or Celestia had any retort to that, cause once again Raven was right and it was only solidify even further by Twilight's words.

"She's right!" Twilight said sadly. "I was a fool, not you guys or Celestia. You all didn't do anything wrong. I let my anger and sadness stop me from thinking straight. I felt that if I couldn't trust my friends... I had to do it on my own…” Twilight bowed her head. I felt alone… But I wasn’t,” she clarified before raising her head. “Celestia was always looking out for me. It’s not her fault if I forget that sometimes.”

Celestia walked over and gave Twilight a comforting hug and all her friends joined in to. They were all still sorry for not listening to her and understood that she was in fact in the wrong for how she handled that situation but they wanted to let her know that they still loved her and don't want her to feel alone like that again.

Everycreature watched the group hug as the sight warmed their hearts and even brought tears to the eyes of some as they quietly enjoyed the joyous moment. Which was soon interrupted by none other than "Raven Inkwell" herself.

"By the looks of things, it seems we finally agree on something Miss Shy!"

The group hug was broken and Fluttershy left her friends to stand before her opponent once again.

"And what might that be?" Fluttershy asked.

"Its clear that you and friends understand that you were not in the wrong when you didn't believe Twilight's story about Cadance and chose to listen to the one who had an logical explanation to why she was acting the way she was." Raven adjust her glasses. "So in conclusion, once I "logically" explain why Discord should be punish for what he did as well as present strong evidence to help support my case." Raven smirk. "By the end of this debate all your supporters will come to my side including your friends."

That got Fluttershy attention and not in a good way. The thought that her friends will join Raven side scared her deeply but Raven next words made her feel even worse.

"And who knows! I'm willing to bet that even you will do the same and abandoned that monster once all the truths are revealed. Heck, I believe Pinkie Pie will give you a free pass for breaking a Pinkie promise. After all you like and everyone else who believes in him still don't know the full extent of his plans, let alone the dangers they've possess." Raven step closer to the shivering pegasus before her. Relishing in her fear as she stared Fluttershy down. It was without a doubt, Fluttershy was scared and losing confidence in herself and Raven just kept pushing.

"And since you once turned on a friend for a good reason." Raven leaned in closer staring menacingly at the kind mare who only layed there on her stomach; feeling small compared to the glasses wearing mare before her. "Who's to say you won't do so again."

Raven was snap out of her rant and back away when a small, orange, female dragon landed next to Fluttershy; who was also surprised to see who it was that came to her aid.

"S-Smolder?" Fluttershy said as her student helped her up to hooves. "What are you doing here?"

"It look like you needed some help to knock little Ms. High and Mighty, off of her pedestal." Smolder said with a smile.

Fluttershy shook her head. "No, Smolder! You shouldn't get yourself involved in this."

"And you shouldn't be letting her get to you and bully you into submission. You're sronger than this Fluttershy!" Said Smolder.

"B-but-"

"No buts! You didn't just instantly forget why you're standing here did you?"

"N-no!"

"Than don't let her get you down like that. Remember you're here to show her why Discord should be forgiven. So don't tell me you given up on him."

Fluttershy shook her head. "No, of course not!" She said with determination.

Smolder smiled. "Good! Cause one of the best things I've learned at the school is to never give up on your friends and you and the rest of the mane 6 taught me and my friends that and so much more and it's because of what you and the other teachers taught us is why everycreature came here to help." Smolder said as she gestures to the surrounding crowd. "and remember Fluttershy you're not alone, you have many supporters who believe in you and Discord and we believe that you will get him forgiven despite Ravens logic and besides if she did have this proof that he should be punished," Smolder glance at Raven, who in turn raised a questioning eyebrow at the young dragon. "she would of presented already."

"And what good would that do when there's still so much to be said and explained." Said of a voice from the crowd.

Everyone turned their attention towards the voice as the creature step forward revealing themselves.

"Ocellus!?" Smolder said in shock.

"Clearly the reason Raven didn't just expose what proof she haves to prove Discords guilt is because she'll still have to explain things anyway. So by doing it in reverse, she can get all the details out now before getting to the main points." Ocellus explained.

Smolder snorted. "Ok, fine! That does make sense but it doesn't matter if she isn't able to prove Discord guilty!"

"The same thing can be said about Fluttershy and besides the real debate was interrupted by Rainbow Dash and there's still a lot to go over." Said Ocellus.

Smolder shrug. "True, but what will talking about these "rumors" about Princess Celestia supposed accomplish it's not even related to main purpose of this debate." She counterd.

"That's true but I believe Ms. Inkwell is bringing up this story for a reason, after all she did say earlier that everything she says and everything she do serves a purpose to prosecuting Discord like how she used Rarity as an example to show everyone why Twilight wasn't ready to rule."

Smolder eyed her friend suspiciously. "Ok hold up, time out. What are you doing? Why are you defending her? Aren't you on Fluttershy side?" She asked.

Gallus step up to speak. "Yeah, Celly. By the sound of things you seemed to be taking Ravens side."

"I mean you are on Fluttershy's side like the rest of us, right?" Silverstream asked nervously.

Ocellus looked around at all her friends, each one awaiting her answer. She then turned attention back to smolder and Fluttershy. She took a quick glance at her kind teacher and a longer one at Discord before closing her eyes and letting out a deep sigh.

Ocellus slowly opened her eyes, looked at Smolder with a serious expression and said.

"Yes! I am taking Raven's side on this." She answered.

The rest of the young six, the mane six, and the princesses gasped in shock at the changling decision. As for Raven herself, Ocelus actins peaked her interest.

"W-Why the heck would you take her side?" Smolder asked.

Ocellus opened her mouth to speak but stop herself for a moment before giving an answer. "Because of her logic and evidence." She answered. "I know we haven't gotten to the heart of things yet but Raven clearly working her way to it while explaining all of Discords crimes."

"Crimes!?" Smolder said annoyed. "You mean crime as in singular. As in his crazy plan that back fired in his face which I may add he made up for." She argued .

Ocellus face hoof herself. "Have you forgotten what Raven just proven without any doubt earlier. She was able to prove that Discord plan to help Twilight actually succeeded. He wasn't trying to help her gain confidence to be a better ruler or defend Equestria because Princess Celestia had already done all that which begs the question What is the real reason Discord did all this? Now Raven wants to show us exactly how The Princess help Twilight and her friends gain confidence in protecting Equestria and I also believe there is something in that story to help prove Discords guilt as well as lead to the truth behind his plan."

Ocellus choosing to stand on Raven side got her interest but with the statement the young Changling just presented got her full attention especially when she walked up to her and spoke.

"Ms. Inkwell!" Ocellus said in a serious tone. "I wish to join you in taking down Discord!"

"WHAT!!!" Smolder shreik. "Ocellus why?"

Ocellus turned around to face her friend. "I have nothing against Fluttershy. I understand she's just fighting for her friend and I hope you and I will remain friends after this but I have my reasons for doing this and I don't want to talk about it right now. Also if you're going to partner up with Fluttershy than its only fair if Raven haves someone by her side as well."

Ocellus turned her attention to the unicorn mare. Looking at her with a strong serious, determination look in her eyes. Raven doesn't need to be a changling herself to know how Ocellus was feeling. She noticed it when the young one stop herself from fully answering Smolder question about why she's taking her side, and how she looked at Discord. The look in Ocellus's eyes was more than enough to tell Raven everything she needed know without using words. She understood exactly what was wrong with her in more ways than one. In a way Raven shared her pain, she's just happy that this kid didnt have to experience it the same exact way she did; because of him.

"So Ms. Inkwell may I join you in your fight to take down Discord?" Ocellus asked. "I promise I won't be a liability."

Raven put on a sincere smile. "I know you won't Ocellus and I would be happy to have you by my side and please just call me Raven."

Ocellus smiled and nodded before sitting herself beside her partner.

Over where the mane six sat Applejack spoke in a low voice. "Uhhh, Twi are we really going allow those two to join in on this?" The farmer asked.

Twilight sighed. "I know its weird and we should stop them but remember it was because of them and a few of our other students that brought everycreature here to help us."

"I supposed you're right, darling! I just hope this won't ruin their friendship." Said Rarity.

"I doubt it!" Said Rainbow Dash. "You heard Ocellus. She doesn't want this to ruin their friendship and after what you and I went through because of our differences we still remained bestfriends despite that."

Rarity nodded. "You're right Rainbow! I'm just worrying myself for nothing."

Back in center of the crowd. Everycreature eyes was now focus on the two duo's as they stared down each other.

"So Ms. Shy do you except this new turn of events of having a partner?" Raven asked.

"I still don't like it but if these two are determined to help than who am I to stop them." Fluttershy answered.

Raven nodded. "Than we are in agreement; probably the only one we'll ever have but we'll see. Now I think it's about time I pick up where I left off before I was interrupted." Raven turned her attention to the rest of the Mane six. "Unless any of you have any more questions you want asked me?"

The mane 5 shook their heads.

Raven smiled. "Good! Now as I was trying to do before, I'm going to show you all through my memories exactly why Celestia never helped Twilight on her missions to save Equestria as well as show how it help her gain confidence."

And with that Raven once again cast the memory spell on herself and a giant screen appeared above her.

"Now, this memory takes place six years ago about a week before Celestia asked Fluttershy to reform Discord." Said Raven.

She than played the memory and everyone sat and watched as the events played out but Ocellus gave the memory more attention than normal. Studying it very carefully.

Raven notice this and it made her smile.

This is going to be fun! Raven thought.


Author's Note

Smolder and Ocellus have join the battle.

Why is Ocellus helping Raven take down Discord. Is it because of Raven's pure logic and evidence or is their something else?

We'll just have to wait and see.

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